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press says Scorp and Chi are to cross paths somehow.
while #1 Sikozu fan scorpsik is round i forged the concept of this post in a postifyer of pure evil. er no but anyway. it's not a secret since it's a press release so ahead of time assuming anything actuallycome sof it, what does anyone (especially Scorpsik!!) think Sikozu would react if she found out scorpy was dealing with chi and maybe they were doing tangos??
angry, worried, jealous....?
guess it depends on many things including what Sikozu thinks of Scorpius now.
which is what?
is their relationship, Scorp and Sikozu entirely subject to coincidence of their agendas?
i'm really hoping this isn't predictable Scorp uses chi, spits her out, if their going to get tangled up i wanna see something about it from all of them + i think with Scorp and her past, Sikozu should be involved somehow......
i am feeling grey and wearing orange.

Hmmm...I think there are two things to consider here:
1 - it is not theactors portraying thecharacters
2 - the comics are predominantly aimed toward the shipper market (presuming, seeing as they have alienated all the Chi fans LOL)

Sooo....if they (Chi/Scorp) were to roomance?

Scorpius: totally within character to flirt, be sexual, manipulate... BUT he doesn't use women at all. He wouldn't, I don't think, just discard her. Not that she would be his 'type' though. Tooo... youthful? I don't think that's the right word... but he is far more staid and reserved. I could see him enchanting her to be an ally, but nothing 'relationship' wise at all. Nooo.

Sikozu? If it were Raelee acting it, Sikozu may be alittle hurt if Scorp/Chi hooked up, but she wouldn't show it.
In the comicsversion, she'll probably be depicted as a raging scorned lover.
Again, out of character.
Although her spending time with Jothee was out of character too, because what could have been interesting with regard to exploring through Jothee, the relationship Sikozu had with D'Argo (which you really have to look for in NE; WSS; BHTB; PKW), they just didn't bother.

Chi? I see it as totally in character for her to find Scorpius interesting... but being comics, they'll use her/ Scrpius as another example of what abad girl she is. Because Scorpy is eeeevil, right? Not the hero that Scorpy fans se him to be.

Maybe they are trying to alienate ALL fans?

I see Scorpius as being a kind of look at purpose. He ain't a hero. Not all evil either. Somewhat agnostic.

With apologies to Scorpys Harvey I don't think a Scorpius / Chi coupling would be a good thing. I can see them fencing off and that Chi just might be one of the few people to fence with him and get away with it to his complete surprise. That could be loads of fun. In S1 or S2 they might have but I doubt Chi would be allowed enough wits to do it. Would be shocked if Chi isn't used as another way to repeat the oft repeated badassness of Scorpius theme.

If it were me. Hm. If Sikozu saw Scorpius was involving Chi. I'd have Sikozu thinking ahead of the evident. Not jealousy or hatred. It's "what is his purpose with her?" Sikozu would be concerned for her. Would get involved. Might be in spite of some hurt, she does have some love Scorpius in a way. But all the more reason that she'd be concerned for Chi. To me, I'd think of Sikozu being inclined to make efforts to befriend Chi, as accomplice, as fellow refugee so on. Sikozu knows it would be an uphill battle. Above that she knows Scorpius. Might try to get in, find out what Scorpius is up to. Get involved. Might not. Up to circumstances. But. A goal would remain being compelled to protect, in a sense, Chi from the person she knows best. If you dig. That's just my 2c.

so frustrating. SIGHS
after thinking over it. .i thingk Scorpy WAS involved with Sikozu past anything t o do with his goals. i don't like the PKW thing but one good part what he says don't quote me but something like "you ruined something unique" and he lmeant loooove imho
so. ..he can be more than his plots.
why he expects her to forgo schemes for him has to many echoes of both other couples in Farscape where the men expected the women to "grow" to toe a line after them. ahem there's a pattern. one i dont' see fitting either Chi or Scorpius.
ANY way. point is. i don't think this has to be whats predicted if scorpy and Chi hook up it could be interesting for both but. WILL it in anything with Chi by the farscape writers? it's weird but they seem to usually do their most limited thinking when they come to their widest ranging character.
if this was GiGi & Wayne's world i'm guessing threre;d be this feral animal sort of vibe happening which would be interesting to see how his intellect with work in that stew where Chi could be more dangerous. LOL i hope i'm not babbling..
AND i think Scorpy could see clear past the social and admire Chi and Sikozu for what they are . could be a different thing totally from what he does but it could be there.
i don't see Scorp and Sikozu as being completely over. i like the ideas of Sikozu getting herself involved maybe wiser to Scorpius., making him think about things he normally doesn't in his plotting for world domination stuff.

Pairing up Chiana and Scorpius, in any kind of friendly, romantic or sexual way, is an idea I hate with a passion. No, I don’t think Chi would have any interest in him. Scorpius is someone who is being comfortable where he is, comfortable with what he’s doing to others. True, he might not be evil, but he doesn’t have any problem with thriving on results of hurting others either. In fact he’s being quite pleased with that. Chiana is not like that at all. Despite all the dren that life threw at her, she remains with a sense of compassion, care and ability to disregard her personal needs, not just when nothing important depends on it. And what's most important, she's capable of feeling guilty and being sorry.

To pair them up is the most ridiculous thought Rockne Obanon could ever come up with, and I edited some words I originally had in this sentence already. Sorry, I can’t talk about it in any other way, because the thought makes me ill, for personal reasons. But seeing how her character was degraded in the comic book already, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’m so glad that I stopped following the comic book and won’t see it if it ever happens. In fact, I don't even want to know.

Hi Oleg!!
i'm totally nuts about your art.
i think most of us here are upset or dissatisfied for one thing or another so,, yea i think i can say whteher we agree on everything or not, we know how you feel.
a HUGE thing to me is how Chi is so open, a real individual not just what "life makes her" y'know? even though it's ultra hard in her life. or at least, that's what i think is at the true core of her no matter if its used right or not.
um LOL i'm out of reply. i can't find much talk about the comics so it's good to hear from anyone i'm sorry it isn't happier news..
thanks for posting plz post away.

Problem I see is the baffling scarcity of all kinds of other ideas for Chiana!


Welcome Oleg!

Welcome, Oleg I extend a froggy hand of friendship.

all anyone knows about this Chiana and Scorpius business is from an ad which I quote

"What plan does Scorpius have with Chiana?"

that's it. Its only a line in press copy that couldn't spell Zhaan. Besides they said things involving Chiana before and turned out they were only blowin smoke. The story to watch with Chi is probably with this Roiin guy and I'm only hoping there's much to it worth watching.

Don't feel to bad about any of that yet anyway.

Thanks, Muddy Hynerian, shaking the froggy hand And thanks everyone for the welcome I've seen the same bit of press you're talking about, and was surprised at feeling so strongly about it, but not surprised at expecting the worst - at that point, after the Roiin thing, I thought the authors woudn't stop from forcing characters to do anything.

I probably should apologize for my yesterdays tone. This is just an issue that really gets on my nerves. As much as there’s some chance I might be compelled to stop liking the show altogether if something like this happens on it. And this is coming from someone who’s been a fan for 9 years, so it’s not a no biggie.

I should clarify how I see Scorpius. I know that many of his fans see some moments of care he displays towards Sikozu, and extend that onto everything else he does, seeing him as someone who hides his feelings to get a job done. I can’t see him like that. It’s not a question of won’t – I really can’t. I tried. I watched him very closely for any sign that he would be uncomfortable with what he’s doing, that it would affect him negatively. There was nothing, not a word, not a look, not a raised eyebrow. I believe that if authors, and Wayne himself wanted to show him as someone hiding his feelings, they’d would’ve been more clear about it. But that's me.

But apart from my personal views, here’s a good objective reason for why Chiana would never be interested in Scorpius – John, Stark, Aeryn, Zhaan. As she nicely put it to Sikozu, “You don’t know him as well as we do”. They were at the receiving end of his ways – she saw what he did to John and Stark, she was at Aeryn’s funeral, she cried when Zhaan died. Unlike Sikozu, she knows how the receiving end of his ways feels like. I don't think that she would like a person who did that, and continues to do that to others. It’s like if she would be okay with him hurting her friends.





It’s not Just Chi, the same problem is pretty much with the whole of the comic book. Apart from tying up Rygel’s loose ends, the rest of the plots looked a lot like a result of authors having a scarcity of new things to do.

But with Chi, I think there’s a lot of things you can do. What happened with the Nebari uber plan to take over the universe? With Nerri and the resistance? Here a story for a new war right there, but instead they gave us The Sudden Invasion of the Big Bad Wolves.

It’s funny, but I would actually choose Roiin nonsense over her hooking up with Scorpius at any time. It’s funny because the Roiin nonsense is the reason why I stopped following the comics. I don’t like an idea of her liking a bounty hunter who hunts John’s son either, but at least I do see a glimmer of dramatic potential here, if they could’ve came up with some really, really, really good reason of why she’d like Roiin so much that it would war with her feelings for her family. Like he would cry and tell her he’s a really nice guy who just do it for the money he needs to buy out his family out of slavery From dramatic point of view, that’s interesting – being caught between two fires trying not to hurt either John or the new boyfriend, trying to solve the situation. But instead of working with Roiin character, the writers preferred to butcher, dumb down, make shallow the character of Chiana. She falls in love, has strong feelings towards him for no reason – couple of days together, just sex, some compliments about how good those two days of sex were, and OMG, I love you! Yeah, you also want to hurt my family, but I love you! That’s just silly. The Kreshtna(sp?) thing is a construct intended to patch it up and make it work, but it doesn’t. A different name for strong feelings doesn’t negate the lack of basis for them. And if it’s a Nebari thing, it still appeared without any good reason – it’s like Rockne made her a robot and flipped a switch – you really love this person now, pretty much no reasons why, but you do, because I need you to. If she can irreversibly home in onto someone like that, wouldn’t it be someone like John, and wouldn’t John be her Kreshtna already? He respects her, he doesn’t take advantage of her, she likes him a lot as we know, but no, that doesn’t trigger a Kreshtna. But the guy who just like to party, takes her to bed straight away when she’s playing a trollop, who she doesn’t know a thing about and who doesn’t know a thing about her, but who's saying BS(in such situation it is) like “you’re the best woman” and “I love you”, does trigger it. I can't not to think, does it mean Rockne considers her this shallow?

Anyways, I stopped following the comics (completely, don’t want to know what happens there) because I don’t want to see any other bad writing happen to Chi (or others too, for that matter). I like Farscape, and don’t want to start thinking “what did I like about this show anyway?” So I probably won't be posting much about this